diff --git a/CHANGELOG.md b/CHANGELOG.md
index 19c906f354..94c5a8d4aa 100644
--- a/CHANGELOG.md
+++ b/CHANGELOG.md
@@ -416,6 +416,9 @@ The format is based on [Keep a Changelog](http://keepachangelog.com/en/1.0.0/).
 - Removed `Strategy.on_tpu` property ([#11536](https://github.com/PyTorchLightning/pytorch-lightning/pull/11536))
 
 
+ - Removed access to `_short_id` in `NeptuneLogger` ([#11517](https://github.com/PyTorchLightning/pytorch-lightning/pull/11517))
+
+
 ### Fixed
 
 - Fixed security vulnerabilities CVE-2020-1747 and CVE-2020-14343 caused by the `PyYAML` dependency ([#11099](https://github.com/PyTorchLightning/pytorch-lightning/pull/11099))
diff --git a/pytorch_lightning/loggers/neptune.py b/pytorch_lightning/loggers/neptune.py
index 2e7031ff46..7895eb0c75 100644
--- a/pytorch_lightning/loggers/neptune.py
+++ b/pytorch_lightning/loggers/neptune.py
@@ -293,9 +293,10 @@ class NeptuneLogger(LightningLoggerBase):
     def _retrieve_run_data(self):
         try:
             self._run_instance.wait()
-            self._run_short_id = self.run._short_id  # skipcq: PYL-W0212
+            self._run_short_id = self._run_instance["sys/id"].fetch()
             self._run_name = self._run_instance["sys/name"].fetch()
         except NeptuneOfflineModeFetchException:
+            self._run_short_id = "OFFLINE"
             self._run_name = "offline-name"
 
     @property
diff --git a/tests/loggers/test_all.py b/tests/loggers/test_all.py
index 15ee4d19b3..8088f6d714 100644
--- a/tests/loggers/test_all.py
+++ b/tests/loggers/test_all.py
@@ -387,9 +387,9 @@ def test_logger_with_prefix_all(tmpdir, monkeypatch):
     # Neptune
     with mock.patch("pytorch_lightning.loggers.neptune.neptune"):
         logger = _instantiate_logger(NeptuneLogger, api_key="test", project="project", save_dir=tmpdir, prefix=prefix)
-        assert logger.experiment.__getitem__.call_count == 1
-        logger.log_metrics({"test": 1.0}, step=0)
         assert logger.experiment.__getitem__.call_count == 2
+        logger.log_metrics({"test": 1.0}, step=0)
+        assert logger.experiment.__getitem__.call_count == 3
         logger.experiment.__getitem__.assert_called_with("tmp/test")
         logger.experiment.__getitem__().log.assert_called_once_with(1.0)
 
diff --git a/tests/loggers/test_neptune.py b/tests/loggers/test_neptune.py
index ddea7b2419..87e52159b6 100644
--- a/tests/loggers/test_neptune.py
+++ b/tests/loggers/test_neptune.py
@@ -25,24 +25,24 @@ from pytorch_lightning.loggers import NeptuneLogger
 from tests.helpers import BoringModel
 
 
+def fetchable_paths(value):
+    if value == "sys/id":
+        return MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="TEST-1"))
+    elif value == "sys/name":
+        return MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="Run test name"))
+    return MagicMock()
+
+
 def create_neptune_mock():
     """Mock with provides nice `logger.name` and `logger.version` values.
 
     Mostly due to fact, that windows tests were failing with MagicMock based strings, which were used to create local
     directories in FS.
     """
-    return MagicMock(
-        init=MagicMock(
-            return_value=MagicMock(
-                __getitem__=MagicMock(return_value=MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="Run test name"))),
-                _short_id="TEST-1",
-            )
-        )
-    )
+    return MagicMock(init=MagicMock(return_value=MagicMock(__getitem__=MagicMock(side_effect=fetchable_paths))))
 
 
 class Run:
-    _short_id = "TEST-42"
     _project_name = "test-project"
 
     def __setitem__(self, key, value):
@@ -55,9 +55,12 @@ class Run:
         pass
 
     def __getitem__(self, item):
-        # called once
-        assert item == "sys/name"
-        return MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="Test name"))
+        if item == "sys/name":
+            return MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="Test name"))
+        elif item == "sys/id":
+            return MagicMock(fetch=MagicMock(return_value="TEST-42"))
+
+        assert False, f"Unexpected call '{item}'"
 
     def __getstate__(self):
         raise pickle.PicklingError("Runs are unpickleable")
@@ -83,11 +86,9 @@ class TestNeptuneLogger(unittest.TestCase):
         self.assertEqual(logger.name, "Run test name")
         self.assertEqual(logger.version, "TEST-1")
         self.assertEqual(neptune.init.call_count, 1)
-        self.assertEqual(created_run_mock.__getitem__.call_count, 1)
+        self.assertEqual(created_run_mock.__getitem__.call_count, 2)
         self.assertEqual(created_run_mock.__setitem__.call_count, 1)
-        created_run_mock.__getitem__.assert_called_once_with(
-            "sys/name",
-        )
+        created_run_mock.__getitem__.assert_has_calls([call("sys/id"), call("sys/name")], any_order=True)
         created_run_mock.__setitem__.assert_called_once_with("source_code/integrations/pytorch-lightning", __version__)
 
     @patch("pytorch_lightning.loggers.neptune.Run", Run)
@@ -97,7 +98,7 @@ class TestNeptuneLogger(unittest.TestCase):
 
         assert logger._run_instance == created_run
         self.assertEqual(logger._run_instance, created_run)
-        self.assertEqual(logger.version, created_run._short_id)
+        self.assertEqual(logger.version, "TEST-42")
         self.assertEqual(neptune.init.call_count, 0)
 
     @patch("pytorch_lightning.loggers.neptune.Run", Run)
@@ -109,7 +110,7 @@ class TestNeptuneLogger(unittest.TestCase):
         pickled_logger = pickle.dumps(logger)
         unpickled = pickle.loads(pickled_logger)
 
-        neptune.init.assert_called_once_with(name="Test name", run=unpickleable_run._short_id)
+        neptune.init.assert_called_once_with(name="Test name", run="TEST-42")
         self.assertIsNotNone(unpickled.experiment)
 
     @patch("pytorch_lightning.loggers.neptune.Run", Run)