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NOTE -- THIS FAQ HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED TO REFLECT RELEASE 1.1 YET. FOR
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1.1 RELATED PROBLEMS PLEASE WATCH THE NEWSGROUP / MAILING LIST OR
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CHECK THE FTP SITE.
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Subject: FAQ: Python -- an object-oriented language
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.python,comp.answers,news.answers
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Followup-to: comp.lang.python
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From: guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum)
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Reply-to: guido@cwi.nl (Guido van Rossum)
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Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.Edu
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Archive-name: python-faq/part1
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Version: 1.15
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Last-modified: 6 October 1994
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This article contains answers to Frequently Asked Questions about
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Python (an object-oriented interpreted programming language -- see
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the answer to question 1.1 for a short overview).
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Copyright 1993, 1994 Guido van Rossum. Unchanged electronic
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redistribution of this FAQ is allowed. Printed redistribution only
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with permission of the author. No warranties.
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Author's address:
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Guido van Rossum
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CWI, dept. CST
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The Netherlands
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Skip Montanaro <skip@automatrix.com> maintains an HTML version of this
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FAQ. The URL is <http://www.automatrix.com/~skip/python-faq.html>.
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This FAQ is divided in the following chapters:
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1. General information and availability
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2. Python in the real world
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3. Building Python
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4. Programming in Python
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5. Extending Python
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6. Python's design
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7. Using Python on non-UNIX platforms
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To find the start of a particular chapter, search for the chapter number
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followed by a dot and a space at the beginning of a line (e.g. to
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find chapter 4 in vi, type /^4\. /).
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Here's an overview of the questions per chapter:
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1. General information and availability
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1.1. Q. What is Python?
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1.2. Q. Why is it called Python?
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1.3. Q. How do I obtain a copy of the Python source?
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1.4. Q. How do I get documentation on Python?
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1.5. Q. Are there other ftp sites that mirror the Python distribution?
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1.6. Q. Is there a newsgroup or mailing list devoted to Python?
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1.7. Q. Is there a book on Python, or will there be one out soon?
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1.8. Q. Are there any published articles about Python that I can quote?
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1.9. Q. How does the Python version numbering scheme work?
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1.10. Q. Are there other ftp sites that carry Python related material?
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1.11. Q. Are there copyright restrictions on the use of Python?
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2. Python in the real world
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2.1. Q. How many people are using Python?
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2.2. Q. Have any significant projects been done in Python?
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2.3. Q. Are there any commercial projects going on using Python?
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2.4. Q. How stable is Python?
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2.5. Q. When will the next version be released?
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2.6. Q. What new developments are expected for Python in the future?
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2.7. Q. Is it reasonable to propose incompatible changes to Python?
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3. Building Python
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3.1. Q. Is there a test set?
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3.2. Q. When running the test set, I get complaints about floating point
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operations, but when playing with floating point operations I cannot
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find anything wrong with them.
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3.3. Q. Link errors building Python with STDWIN on SGI IRIX.
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3.4. Q. Link errors after rerunning the configure script.
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3.5. Q. The python interpreter complains about options passed to a
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script (after the script name).
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3.6. Q. When building on the SGI, make tries to run python to create
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glmodule.c, but python hasn't been built or installed yet.
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3.7. Q. Python built with gcc for the DEC Alpha doesn't work.
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3.8. Q. I use VPATH but some targets are built in the source directory.
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3.9. Q. Trouble building or linking with the GNU readline library.
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3.10. Q. Trouble building Python on Linux.
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3.11. Q. Other trouble building Python on platform X.
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4. Programming in Python
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4.1. Q. Is there a source code level debugger with breakpoints, step,
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etc.?
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4.2. Q. Can I create an object class with some methods implemented in
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C and others in Python (e.g. through inheritance)? (Also phrased as:
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Can I use a built-in type as base class?)
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4.3. Q. Is there a curses/termcap package for Python?
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4.4. Q. Is there an equivalent to C's onexit() in Python?
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4.5. Q. When I define a function nested inside another function, the
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nested function seemingly can't access the local variables of the
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outer function. What is going on? How do I pass local data to a
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nested function?
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4.6. Q. How do I iterate over a sequence in reverse order?
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4.7. Q. My program is too slow. How do I speed it up?
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4.8. Q. When I have imported a module, then edit it, and import it
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again (into the same Python process), the changes don't seem to take
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place. What is going on?
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4.9. Q. How do I find the current module name?
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4.10. Q. I have a module in which I want to execute some extra code when it
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is run as a script. How do I find out whether I am running as a
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script?
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4.11. Q. I try to run a program from the Demo directory but it fails with
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ImportError: No module named ...; what gives?
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4.12. Q. I have successfully built Python with STDWIN but it can't
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find some modules (e.g. stdwinevents).
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4.13. Q. What GUI toolkits exist for Python?
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4.14. Q. Are there any interfaces to database packages in Python?
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4.15. Q. Is it possible to write obfuscated one-liners in Python?
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4.16. Q. Is there an equivalent of C's "?:" ternary operator?
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4.17. Q. My class defines __del__ but it is not called when I delete the
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object.
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4.18. Q. How do I change the shell environment for programs called using
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os.popen() or os.system()? Changing os.environ doesn't work.
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4.19. Q. What is a class?
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4.20. Q. What is a method?
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4.21. Q. What is self?
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4.22. Q. What is a unbound method?
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4.23. Q. How do I call a method defined in a base class from a derived class
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that overrides it?
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4.24. Q. How do I call a method from a base class without using the name of
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the base class?
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4.25. Q. How can I organize my code to make it easier to change the base
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class?
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4.26. Q. How can I find the methods or attributes of an object?
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4.27. Q. I can't seem to use os.read() on a pipe created with os.popen().
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4.28. Q. How can I create a stand-alone binary from a Python script?
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4.29. Q. Is there a special lib for writing CGI scripts in Python?
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4.30. Q. What other WWW tools are there for Python?
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5. Extending Python
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5.1. Q. Can I create my own functions in C?
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5.2. Q. Can I create my own functions in C++?
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5.3. Q. How can I execute arbitrary Python statements from C?
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5.4. Q. How can I evaluate an arbitrary Python expression from C?
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5.5. Q. How do I extract C values from a Python object?
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5.6. Q. How do I use mkvalue() to create a tuple of arbitrary length?
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5.7. Q. What happened to mktuple(), featuring in an example in the
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Extensions manual?
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5.8. Q. How do I call an object's method from C?
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5.9. Q. How do I catch the output from print_error()?
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5.10. Q. How do I access a module written in Python from C?
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6. Python's design
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6.1. Q. Why isn't there a generic copying operation for objects in
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Python?
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6.2. Q. Why isn't there a generic way to implement persistent objects
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in Python? (Persistent == automatically saved to and restored from
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disk.)
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6.3. Q. Why isn't there a switch or case statement in Python?
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6.4. Q. Why does Python use indentation for grouping of statements?
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6.5. Q. Why are Python strings immutable?
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6.6. Q. Why don't strings have methods like index() or sort(), like
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lists?
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6.7. Q. Why does Python use methods for some functionality
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(e.g. list.index()) but functions for other (e.g. len(list))?
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6.8. Q. Why can't I derive a class from built-in types (e.g. lists or
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files)?
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6.9. Q. Why must 'self' be declared and used explicitly in method
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definitions and calls?
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6.10. Q. Can't you emulate threads in the interpreter instead of
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relying on an OS-specific thread implementation?
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6.11. Q. Why can't lambda forms contain statements?
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6.12. Q. Why is there no more efficient way of iterating over a dictionary
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than first constructing the list of keys()?
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7. Using Python on non-UNIX platforms
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7.1. Q. Is there a Mac version of Python?
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7.2. Q. Is there a DOS version of Python?
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7.3. Q. Is there a Windows version of Python?
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7.4. Q. Is there a Windows NT version of Python?
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7.5. Q. Is there an OS/2 version of Python?
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7.6. Q. Is there a VMS version of Python?
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7.7. Q. What about IBM mainframes, or other esoteric non-UNIX
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platforms?
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7.8. Q. Where are the source or Makefiles for the non-UNIX versions?
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7.9. Q. What is the status and support for the non-UNIX versions?
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7.10. Q. I have the PC version but it appears to be only a binary.
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Where's the library?
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7.11. Q. Where's the documentation for the Mac or PC version?
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7.12. Q. The Mac (PC) version doesn't seem to have any facilities for
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creating or editing programs apart from entering it interactively, and
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there seems to be no way to save code that was entered interactively.
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How do I create a Python program on the Mac (PC)?
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To find a particular question, search for the question number followed
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by a dot, a space, and a Q at the beginning of a line (e.g. to find
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question 4.2 in vi, type /^4\.2\. Q/).
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1. General information and availability
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1.1. Q. What is Python?
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A. Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming
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language. It incorporates modules, exceptions, dynamic typing, very
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high level dynamic data types, and classes. Python combines
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remarkable power with very clear syntax. It has interfaces to many
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system calls and libraries, as well as to various window systems, and
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is extensible in C or C++. It is also usable as an extension language
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for applications that need a programmable interface. Finally, Python
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is portable: it runs on many brands of UNIX, on the Mac, and on
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MS-DOS.
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To find out more, the best thing to do is to start reading the
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tutorial from the documentation set (see a few questions further
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down).
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1.2. Q. Why is it called Python?
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A. Apart from being a computer wizard, I'm also a fan of "Monty
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Python's Flying Circus" (a BBC comedy series from the seventies, in
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the -- unlikely -- case you didn't know). It occurred to me one day
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that I needed a name that was short, unique, and slightly mysterious.
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And I happened to be reading some scripts from the series at the
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time... So then I decided to call my language Python. But Python is
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not a joke. And don't you associate it with dangerous reptiles
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either!
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1.3. Q. How do I obtain a copy of the Python source?
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A. The latest Python source distribution is always available by
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anonymous ftp from ftp.cwi.nl [192.16.191.128] in the directory
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/pub/python, with filename python<version>.tar.gz. (Old versions may
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have an extension of .Z, indicating use of "compress" compression.)
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It is a gzip'ed tar file containing the complete C source, LaTeX
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documentation, Python library modules, example programs, and several
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useful pieces of freely distributable software. This will compile and
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run out of the box on most UNIX platforms. (See section 7 for
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non-UNIX information.)
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1.4. Q. How do I get documentation on Python?
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A. The latest Python documentation set is always available by
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anonymous ftp from ftp.cwi.nl [192.16.191.128] in the directory
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/pub/python, with filename pythondoc-ps<version>.tar.gz. It is a
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gzip'ed tar file containing PostScript files of the reference manual,
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the library manual, and the tutorial. Note that the library manual is
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the most important one of the set, as much of Python's power stems
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from the standard or built-in types, functions and modules, all of
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which are described here. PostScript for a high-level description of
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Python is in the file nluug-paper.ps.
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1.5. Q. Are there other ftp sites that mirror the Python distribution?
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A. The following sites keep mirrors of the Python distribution:
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Site IP address Directory
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gatekeeper.dec.com 16.1.0.2 /pub/plan/python
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ftp.uu.net 192.48.96.9 /languages/python
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ftp.wustl.edu 128.252.135.4 /graphics/graphics/sgi-stuff/python
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ftp.funet.fi 128.214.6.100 /pub/languages/python
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ftp.fu-berlin.de 130.133.1.18 /unix/languages/python (*python* only)
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ftp.sunet.se 130.238.127.3 /pub/lang/python
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unix.hensa.ac.uk 129.12.43.16 /uunet/languages/python
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ftp.sterlng.com 192.124.9.3 /programming/languages/python
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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Or try archie on e.g. "python1." to locate the nearest copy of that
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version...
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1.6. Q. Is there a newsgroup or mailing list devoted to Python?
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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A. There is a newsgroup, comp.lang.python, and a mailing list. The
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newsgroup and mailing list are gatewayed into each other -- if you can
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read news it's unnecessary to subscribe to the mailing list. Send
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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e-mail to python-list-request@cwi.nl to (un)subscribe to the mailing
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1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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list. Once you're on, send e-mail tp python-list@cwi.nl to send mail
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to the entire mailing list and newsgroup. Hypermail archives of
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(nearly) everything posted to the mailing list (and thus the
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newsgroup) are available -- the URL for the complete set of archives
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is <http://www.cwi.nl/~guido/hypermail/index.html>. The raw archives
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are also available by ftp from ftp.cwi.nl in /pub/python (and most
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mirrors), files mail*.gz. The uncompressed versions of these files
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can be read with the standard UNIX Mail program ("Mail -f file") or
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with nn ("nn file"). To read them using MH, you could use "inc -file
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file".
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-05-31 09:18:50 +00:00
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1.7. Q. Is there a book on Python, or will there be one out soon?
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A. I am writing one. Addison-Wesley is interested. Optimistically,
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it will be published by mid-1995. Other authors are also working on
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books... (Do you guys want your name mentioned here?)
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-05-31 09:18:50 +00:00
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1.8. Q. Are there any published articles about Python that I can quote?
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A. So far the only refereed and published article that describes
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Python in some detail is:
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Guido van Rossum and Jelke de Boer, "Interactively Testing Remote
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Servers Using the Python Programming Language", CWI Quarterly, Volume
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4, Issue 4 (December 1991), Amsterdam, pp 283-303.
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LaTeX source for this paper is available as part of the Python source
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distribution.
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A more recent high-level description of Python is:
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Guido van Rossum, "An Introduction to Python for UNIX/C
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Programmers", in the proceedings of the NLUUG najaarsconferentie
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1993 (dutch UNIX users group meeting November 1993).
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PostScript for this paper and for the slides used for the accompanying
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presentation can be found in the ftp directory mentioned a few
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questions earlier, with filenames nluug-paper.ps and nluug-slides.ps,
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respectively.
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1994-05-31 09:18:50 +00:00
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1.9. Q. How does the Python version numbering scheme work?
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1994-01-26 17:23:37 +00:00
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A. Python versions are numbered A.B.C. A is the major version number
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-- it is only incremented for major changes in functionality or source
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structure. B is the minor version number, incremented for less
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earth-shattering changes to a release. C is the patchlevel -- it is
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incremented for each new release. Note that in the past, patches have
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added significant changes; in fact the changeover from 0.9.9 to 1.0.0
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was the first time that either A or B changed!
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1994-05-31 09:18:50 +00:00
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1.10. Q. Are there other ftp sites that carry Python related material?
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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A. An interesting ftp site for Python users is ftp.markv.com
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(192.122.251.1); the directory pub/python contains a growing
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collection of interesting Python scripts. To submit a script for
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inclusion, place it together with a readme file (with extension
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.readme) in the publicly writable directory /incoming/python. This
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service is maintained by Lance Ellinghouse <lance@markv.com>.
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1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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1.11. Q. Are there copyright restrictions on the use of Python?
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A. Hardly. You can do anything you want with the source, as long as
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you leave the copyrights in, display those copyrights in any
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documentation about Python that you produce, don't use the author's
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institute's name in publicity without prior written permission, and
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don't hold them responsible for anything (read the actual copyright
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for a precise legal wording).
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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2. Python in the real world
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===========================
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2.1. Q. How many people are using Python?
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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A. I don't know, but the maximum number of simultaneous subscriptions
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to the Python mailing list before it was gatewayed into the newsgroup
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was about 180 (several of which were local redistribution lists). I
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believe that many active Python users don't bother to subscribe to the
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list, and now that there's a newsgroup the mailing list subscription
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1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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is even less meaningful. I see new names on the newsgroup all the
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time and my best guess is that there are currently at least several
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thousands of users.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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2.2. Q. Have any significant projects been done in Python?
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A. Here at CWI (the home of Python), we have written a 20,000 line
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authoring environment for transportable hypermedia presentations, a
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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5,000 line multimedia teleconferencing tool, as well as many many
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smaller programs.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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The University of Virginia uses Python to control a virtual reality
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engine. Contact: Matt Conway <conway@virginia.edu>.
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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If you have done a significant project in Python that you'd like to be
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included in the list above, send me email!
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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2.3. Q. Are there any commercial projects going on using Python?
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A. Several companies have revealed to me that they are planning or
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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considering to use Python in a future product.
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The furthest is Sunrise Software, who already have a product out using
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Python -- they use Python for a GUI management application and an SNMP
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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network management application. Contact: <info@sunrise.com>.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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Infoseek is using Python to implement their commercial WWW information
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1994-08-17 12:19:53 +00:00
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retrieval service. Contact: <info@infoseek.com>.
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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Michael Powers of daVinci Time & Space is "writing tons-o-python for
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interactive television entertainment." Contact: <powers@dvts.com>.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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Individuals at many other companies are using Python for
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internal development (witness their contributions to the Python
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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mailing list or newsgroup).
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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Python has also been elected as an extension language by MADE, a
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consortium supported by the European Committee's ESPRIT program and
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consisting of Bull, CWI and some other European companies. Contact:
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Ivan Herman <ivan@cwi.nl>.
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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If you'd like to be included in the list above, send me email!
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1994-01-26 17:23:37 +00:00
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2.4. Q. How stable is Python?
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
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A. Very stable. While the current version number would suggest it is
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in the early stages of development, in fact new, stable releases
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(numbered 0.9.x and 1.0.x) have been coming out roughly every 3 to 6
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1994-01-26 17:23:37 +00:00
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months for the past four years.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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2.5. Q. When will the next version be released?
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A. I am planning to release 1.1 before October 15. It will contain
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tons of changes, including (again) improved portability, especially
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better support for DOS, Windows, Windows NT an the Macintosh. A few
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modules will have been converted to the new naming scheme. A working
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signal module will be present.
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2.6. Q. What new developments are expected for Python in the future?
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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A. A proposal is being worked out to change the semantics of operator
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overloading (__add__, __mul__ etc.) to make them more useful for
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implementing types that don't resemble numbers. Additions will be
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__call__ (to call an instance as if it were a function) and __eq__,
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_lt__ etc. (to override individual comparisons). A (new) pthreads
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interface has been submitted which will be integrated in the next
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release. The X11/Motif interface will be improved. There are ideas
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about built-in help using strings placed into function objects, and
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possibly a switch statement.
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There will be better ports to the Mac, DOS, Windows, Windows NT, and
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1994-08-17 12:19:53 +00:00
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OS/2. The Windows ports will support dynamically loaded modules using
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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DLLs.
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1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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Also planned is improved support for embedding Python in other
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applications, e.g. by renaming most global symbols to have a "Py"
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prefix and providing more documentation and threading support.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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2.7. Q. Is it reasonable to propose incompatible changes to Python?
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1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
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A. In general, no. There are already millions of lines of Python code
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around the world, so any changes in the language that invalidates more
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than a very small fraction of existing programs has to be frowned
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upon. Even if you can provide a conversion program, there still is
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the problem of updating all documentation. Providing a gradual
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upgrade path is the only way if a feature has to be changed.
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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3. Building Python
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==================
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1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
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3.1. Q. Is there a test set?
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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A. Yes, simply do "import testall" (or "import autotest" if you aren't
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interested in the output). The standard modules whose name begins
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with "test" together comprise the test. The test set doesn't test
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*all* features of Python but it goes a long way to confirm that a new
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port is actually working. The Makefile contains an entry "make test"
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which runs the autotest module.
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1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
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3.2. Q. When running the test set, I get complaints about floating point
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1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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operations, but when playing with floating point operations I cannot
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find anything wrong with them.
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A. The test set makes occasional unwarranted assumptions about the
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semantics of C floating point operations. Until someone donates a
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better floating point test set, you will have to comment out the
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offending floating point tests and execute similar tests manually.
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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3.3. Q. Link errors building Python with STDWIN 0.9.8. on SGI IRIX.
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A. Get STDWIN 0.9.9 from ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/stdwin/stdwin0.9.9.tar.gz.
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Q. Link errors building Python with STDWIN 0.9.9.
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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A. Probably routines liek 'tereate', 'tenew' etc. The STDWIN 0.9.9
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distribution requires that you add TWO libraries from stdwin to the
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line for stdwin in the Setupfile. Use something like this (all on one
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line!):
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stdwin stdwinmodule.c -I$(STDWIN)/H $(STDWIN)/Packs/textedit/libtextedit.a $(STDWIN)/Ports/x11/libstdwin.a -lX11
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
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3.4. Q. Link errors after rerunning the configure script.
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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A. It is generally necessary to run "make clean" after a configuration
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change.
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1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
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3.5. Q. The python interpreter complains about options passed to a
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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script (after the script name).
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A. You are probably linking with GNU getopt, e.g. through -liberty.
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1994-08-17 12:19:53 +00:00
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Don't. The reason for the complaint is that GNU getopt, unlike System
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V getopt and other getopt implementations, doesn't consider a
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non-option to be the end of the option list. A quick (and compatible)
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fix for scripts is to add "--" to the interpreter, like this:
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#! /usr/local/bin/python --
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You can also use this interactively:
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python -- script.py [options]
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
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3.6. Q. When building on the SGI, make tries to run python to create
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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glmodule.c, but python hasn't been built or installed yet.
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A. Comment out the line mentioning glmodule.c in Setup and build a
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python without gl first; install it or make sure it is in your $PATH,
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then edit the Setup file again to turn on the gl module, and make
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again. You don't need to do "make clean"; you do need to run "make
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Makefile" in the Modules subdirectory (or just run "make" at the
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toplevel).
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1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
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3.7. Q. Python built with gcc for the DEC Alpha doesn't work.
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People have reported problems with both gcc 2.5.8 and 2.6.0. The DEC
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OSF/1 cc compiler does not have these problems so it's probably gcc's
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fault. One person reported that the problem went away when using -g
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instead of -O so this may be an option if you insist on using gcc. If
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someone tracks it down more completely I'd like to hear about it!
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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3.8. Q. I use VPATH but some targets are built in the source directory.
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A. On some systems (e.g. Sun), if the target already exists in the
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source directory, it is created there instead of in the build
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directory. This is usually because you have previously built without
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VPATH. Try running "make clobber" in the source directory.
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3.9. Q. Trouble building or linking with the GNU readline library.
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A. Consider using readline 2.0. From the Python 1.1 README:
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- You can use the GNU readline library to improve the interactive user
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interface: this gives you line editing and command history when
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calling python interactively. You need to configure build the GNU
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readline library before running the configure script. Its sources are
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no longer distributed with Python; you can ftp them from any GNU
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mirror site, or from its home site:
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ftp://slc2.ins.cwru.edu/pub/dist/readline-2.0.tar.gz (or a higher
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version number -- using version 1.x is not recommended). Pass the
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Python configure script the option --with-readline=DIRECTORY where
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DIRECTORY is the absolute pathname of the directory where you've built
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the readline library. Some hints on building and using the readline
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library:
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- On SGI IRIX 5, you may have to add the following
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to rldefs.h:
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#ifndef sigmask
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#define sigmask(sig) (1L << ((sig)-1))
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#endif
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- On most systems, you will have to add #include "rldefs.h" to the
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top of several source files, and if you use the VPATH feature, you
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will have to add dependencies of the form foo.o: foo.c to the
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Makefile for several values of foo.
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- The readline library requires use of the termcap library. A
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known problem with this is that it contains entry points which
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cause conflicts with the STDWIN and SGI GL libraries. The STDWIN
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conflict can be solved (and will be, in the next release of
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STDWIN) by adding a line saying '#define werase w_erase' to the
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stdwin.h file (in the STDWIN distribution, subdirectory H). The
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GL conflict has been solved in the Python configure script by a
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hack that forces use of the static version of the termcap library.
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- Check the newsgroup gnu.bash.bugs for specific problems with the
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readline library (I don't get this group here but I've been told
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that it is the place for readline bugs.)
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3.10. Q. Trouble building Python on Linux.
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A. There shouldn't be any -- I've seen several complaints but more
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reports on successful "out-of-the-box" ports on Linux. The standard
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configure script runs just fine on Linux.
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3.11. Q. Other trouble building Python on platform X.
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A. Please email the details to <guido@cwi.nl> and I'll look into it.
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4. Programming in Python
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========================
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4.1. Q. Is there a source code level debugger with breakpoints, step,
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etc.?
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A. Yes. Check out module pdb; pdb.help() prints the documentation (or
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you can read it as Lib/pdb.doc). If you use the STDWIN option,
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there's also a windowing interface, wdb. You can write your own
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debugger by using the code for pdb or wdb as an example.
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4.2. Q. Can I create an object class with some methods implemented in
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C and others in Python (e.g. through inheritance)? (Also phrased as:
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Can I use a built-in type as base class?)
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A. No, but you can easily create a Python class which serves as a
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wrapper around a built-in object, e.g. (for dictionaries):
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# A user-defined class behaving almost identical
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# to a built-in dictionary.
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class UserDict:
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def __init__(self): self.data = {}
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def __repr__(self): return repr(self.data)
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def __cmp__(self, dict):
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if type(dict) == type(self.data):
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return cmp(self.data, dict)
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else:
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return cmp(self.data, dict.data)
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def __len__(self): return len(self.data)
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def __getitem__(self, key): return self.data[key]
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def __setitem__(self, key, item): self.data[key] = item
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def __delitem__(self, key): del self.data[key]
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def keys(self): return self.data.keys()
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def items(self): return self.data.items()
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def values(self): return self.data.values()
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def has_key(self, key): return self.data.has_key(key)
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4.3. Q. Is there a curses/termcap package for Python?
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A. Yes -- Lance Ellinghouse has written a module that interfaces to
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System V's "ncurses". If you know a little curses and some Python,
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it's straightforward to use.
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You could also consider using the "alfa" (== character cell) version
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of STDWIN. (STDWIN == Standard Windows, a portable windowing system
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interface by the same author, URL: "ftp://ftp.cwi.nl/pub/stdwin".) This
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will also prepare your program for porting to windowing environments
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such as X11 or the Macintosh.
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4.4. Q. Is there an equivalent to C's onexit() in Python?
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A. Yes, if you import sys and assign a function to sys.exitfunc, it
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will be called when your program exits, is killed by an unhandled
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exception, or (on UNIX) receives a SIGHUP or SIGTERM signal.
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4.5. Q. When I define a function nested inside another function, the
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nested function seemingly can't access the local variables of the
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outer function. What is going on? How do I pass local data to a
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nested function?
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A. Python does not have arbitrarily nested scopes. When you need to
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create a function that needs to access some data which you have
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available locally, create a new class to hold the data and return a
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method of an instance of that class, e.g.:
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class MultiplierClass:
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def __init__(self, factor):
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self.factor = factor
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def multiplier(self, argument):
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return argument * self.factor
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def generate_multiplier(factor):
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return MultiplierClass(factor).multiplier
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twice = generate_multiplier(2)
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print twice(10)
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# Output: 20
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4.6. Q. How do I iterate over a sequence in reverse order?
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A. If it is a list, the fastest solution is
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list.reverse()
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try:
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for x in list:
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"do something with x"
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finally:
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list.reverse()
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This has the disadvantage that while you are in the loop, the list
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is temporarily reversed. If you don't like this, you can make a copy.
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This appears expensive but is actually faster than other solutions:
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rev = list[:]
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rev.reverse()
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for x in rev:
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<do something with x>
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If it isn't a list, a more general but slower solution is:
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i = len(list)
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while i > 0:
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i = i-1
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x = list[i]
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<do something with x>
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A more elegant solution, is to define a class which acts as a sequence
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and yields the elements in reverse order (solution due to Steve
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Majewski):
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class Rev:
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def __init__(self, seq):
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self.forw = seq
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def __len__(self):
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return len(self.forw)
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def __getitem__(self, i):
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return self.forw[-(i + 1)]
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You can now simply write:
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for x in Rev(list):
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<do something with x>
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Unfortunately, this solution is slowest of all, due to the method
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call overhead...
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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4.7. Q. My program is too slow. How do I speed it up?
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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A. That's a tough one, in general. There are many tricks to speed up
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|
Python code; I would consider rewriting parts in C only as a last
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|
resort. One thing to notice is that function and (especially) method
|
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|
calls are rather expensive; if you have designed a purely OO interface
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|
with lots of tiny functions that don't do much more than get or set an
|
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|
instance variable or call another method, you may consider using a
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|
more direct way, e.g. directly accessing instance variables. Also see
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|
the standard module "profile" (described in the file
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|
"python/lib/profile.doc") which makes it possible to find out where
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|
your program is spending most of its time (if you have some patience
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|
|
-- the profiling itself can slow your program down by an order of
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|
magnitude).
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|
1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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4.8. Q. When I have imported a module, then edit it, and import it
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
again (into the same Python process), the changes don't seem to take
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|
|
place. What is going on?
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|
A. For efficiency reasons, Python only reads the module file on the
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|
first time a module is imported (otherwise a program consisting of
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|
|
many modules, each of which imports the same basic module, would read
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|
the basic module over and over again). To force a changed module
|
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|
being read again, do this:
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|
|
import modname
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|
reload(modname)
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|
Warning: this technique is not 100% fool-proof. In particular,
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|
modules containing statements like
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|
from modname import some_objects
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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will continue to work with the old version of the imported objects.
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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4.9. Q. How do I find the current module name?
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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|
A. A module can find out its own module name by looking at the
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1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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|
(predefined) global variable __name__. If this has the value
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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|
|
'__main__' you are running as a script.
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4.10. Q. I have a module in which I want to execute some extra code when it
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|
is run as a script. How do I find out whether I am running as a
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|
|
script?
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A. See the previous question. E.g. if you put the following on the
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|
|
last line of your module, main() is called only when your module is
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|
running as a script:
|
1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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if __name__ == '__main__': main()
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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4.11. Q. I try to run a program from the Demo directory but it fails with
|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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|
|
ImportError: No module named ...; what gives?
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|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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|
|
A. This is probably an optional module (written in C!) which hasn't
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|
been configured on your system. This especially happens with modules
|
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|
like "stdwin", "gl", "Xt" or "Xm". For STDWIN and many other modules,
|
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|
|
see Modules/Setup.in for info on how to add these modules to your
|
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|
|
Python, if it is possible at all. Sometimes you will have to ftp and
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|
|
build another package first (e.g. STDWIN). Sometimes the module only
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|
works on specific platforms (e.g. gl only works on SGI machines).
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|
For X-related modules (Xt and Xm) you will have to do more work: they
|
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|
|
are currently not part of the standard Python distribution. You will
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|
|
have to ftp the file "extensions.tar.gz" file from a Python ftp
|
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|
|
repository (e.g. ftp.cwi.nl) and follow the instructions there. Note:
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|
the X related modules are still somewhat flakey, so don't try this
|
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|
|
unless you alread know a bit or two about building X applications on
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|
|
your platform.
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|
See also the next question.
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|
4.12. Q. I have successfully built Python with STDWIN but it can't
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|
|
find some modules (e.g. stdwinevents).
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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|
A. There's a subdirectory of the library directory named 'stdwin'
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|
which should be in the default module search path. There's a line in
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|
Modules/Setup(.in) that you have to enable for this purpose --
|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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|
|
unfortunately in the latest release it's not near the other
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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STDWIN-related lines so it's easy to miss it.
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|
4.13. Q. What GUI toolkits exist for Python?
|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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A. Depending on what platform(s) you are aiming at, there are several.
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|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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- There's a neat object-oriented interface to the Tcl/Tk widget set,
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|
called Tkinter. You can ftp it from ftp.cwi.nl as
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|
pub/python/tkinter.tar.gz. This is probably the easiest to install
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|
|
and use, and the most complete widget set.
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|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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- The standard Python distribution comes with an interface to STDWIN,
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|
a platform-independent low-level windowing interface (you have to ftp
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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|
|
the source for STDWIN separately, e.g. from ftp.cwi.nl in pub/stdwin
|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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|
|
or gatekeeper.dec.com in pub/misc/stdwin). STDWIN runs under X11 or
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
the Mac; a Windows port has been attempted but I can't seem to get it
|
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|
|
working. Note that STDWIN is really not powerful enough to implement
|
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|
|
a modern GUI (no widgets, etc.) and that I don't have the time to
|
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|
|
maintain or extend it, so you may be better off using Tkinter or the
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|
|
Motif interface, unless you require portability to the Mac (which is
|
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|
|
also offered by SUIT, by the way -- see below).
|
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|
- For SGI IRIX only, there's an interface to the complete GL (Graphics
|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
|
|
|
Library -- low level but very good 3D capabilities) as well as to
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|
FORMS (a buttons-and-sliders-etc package built on top of GL by Mark
|
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|
|
Overmars -- ftp'able from ftp.cs.ruu.nl in pub/SGI/FORMS).
|
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|
- There's an interface to X11, including the Athena and Motif widget
|
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|
sets (and a few individual widgets, like Mosaic's HTML widget and
|
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|
|
SGI's GL widget) in the Extensions set, which is separately ftp'able
|
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|
|
from ftp.cwi.nl as pub/python/extensions.tar.gz.
|
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|
|
- There's an interface to SUIT, the U of Virginia's Simple User
|
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|
|
Interface Toolkit; it can be ftp'ed from uvacs.cs.virginia.edu as
|
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|
|
pub/suit/python/SUIT_python.tar.Z. A PC binary of Python 1.0.2
|
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|
|
compiled with DJGPP and with SUIT support built-in has been made
|
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|
|
available by Antonio Costa on ftp site asterix.inescn.pt, directory
|
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|
|
pub/PC/python, file pyt102su.exe (a self-extracting archive).
|
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|
- There's an interface to WAFE, a Tcl interface to the X11 Motif and
|
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|
|
Athena widget sets. Last I heard about it it was included in the
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|
WAFE 1.0 prerelease, ftp'able from ftp.wu-wien.ac.at as
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|
pub/src/X11/wafe/wafe-1.0.tar.gz-prerelease.
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|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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4.14. Q. Are there any interfaces to database packages in Python?
|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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|
|
A. There's an interface to SYBASE by John Redford
|
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|
|
<jredford@lehman.com>.
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|
There's also an interface to metalbase by Lance Ellinghouse
|
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|
|
<lance@markv.com>.
|
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|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
Anthony Baxter <anthony.baxter@aaii.oz.au> has written an interface to
|
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|
|
mSQL (mini-SQL). Ftp it from ftp.cwi.nl:/pub/python/PymSQL.tar.gz.
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|
4.15. Q. Is it possible to write obfuscated one-liners in Python?
|
1994-09-23 14:08:41 +00:00
|
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|
|
A. Yes. See the following three examples, due to Ulf Bartelt:
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|
|
# Primes < 1000
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|
|
print filter(None,map(lambda y:y*reduce(lambda x,y:x*y!=0,\
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|
map(lambda x,y=y:y%x,range(2,int(pow(y,0.5)+1))),1),range(2,1000)))
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|
|
# First 10 Fibonacci numbers
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|
|
print map(lambda x,f=lambda x,f:(x<=1) or (f(x-1,f)+f(x-2,f)): f(x,f),\
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|
range(10))
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|
|
# Mandelbrot set
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|
print (lambda Ru,Ro,Iu,Io,IM,Sx,Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda y,\
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|
Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,Sy=Sy,L=lambda yc,Iu=Iu,Io=Io,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,i=IM,\
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Sx=Sx,Sy=Sy:reduce(lambda x,y:x+y,map(lambda x,xc=Ru,yc=yc,Ru=Ru,Ro=Ro,\
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i=i,Sx=Sx,F=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f=lambda xc,yc,x,y,k,f:(k<=0)or (x*x+y*y\
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>=4.0) or 1+f(xc,yc,x*x-y*y+xc,2.0*x*y+yc,k-1,f):f(xc,yc,x,y,k,f):chr(\
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64+F(Ru+x*(Ro-Ru)/Sx,yc,0,0,i)),range(Sx))):L(Iu+y*(Io-Iu)/Sy),range(Sy\
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))))(-2.1, 0.7, -1.2, 1.2, 30, 80, 24)
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# \___ ___/ \___ ___/ | | |__ lines on screen
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# V V | |______ columns on screen
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# | | |__________ maximum of "iterations"
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# | |_________________ range on y axis
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# |____________________________ range on x axis
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Don't try this at home, kids!
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4.16. Q. Is there an equivalent of C's "?:" ternary operator?
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A. Not directly. In many cases you can mimic a?b:c with "a and b or
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c", but there's a flaw: if b is zero (or empty, or None -- anything
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that tests false) then c will be selected instead. In many cases you
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can prove by looking at the code that this can't happen (e.g. because
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b is a constant or has a type that can never be false), but in general
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this can be a problem.
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Steve Majewski (or was it Tim Peters?) suggested the following
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solution: (a and [b] or [c])[0]. Because [b] is a singleton list it
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is never false, so the wrong path is never taken; then applying [0] to
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the whole thing gets the b or c that you really wanted. Ugly, but it
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gets you there in the rare cases where it is really inconvenient to
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rewrite your code using 'if'.
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4.17. Q. My class defines __del__ but it is not called when I delete the
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object.
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A. There are several possible reasons for this.
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- The del statement does not necessarily call __del__ -- it simply
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decrements the object's reference count, and if this reaches zero
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__del__ is called.
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- If your data structures contain circular links (e.g. a tree where
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each child has a parent pointer and each parent has a list of
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children) the reference counts will never go back to zero. You'll
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have to define an explicit close() method which removes those
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pointers. Please don't ever call __del__ directly -- __del__ should
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call close() and close() should make sure that it can be called more
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than once for the same object.
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- If the object has ever been a local variable (or argument, which is
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really the same thing) to a function that caught an expression in an
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except clause, chances are that a reference to the object still exists
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in that function's stack frame as contained in the stack trace.
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Normally, deleting (better: assigning None to) sys.exc_traceback will
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take care of this. If you a stack was printed for an unhandled
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exception in an interactive interpreter, delete sys.last_traceback
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instead.
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- There is code that deletes all objects when the interpreter exits,
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but if your Python has been configured to support threads, it is not
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called (because other threads may still be active). You can define
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your own cleanup function using sys.exitfunc (see question 4.4).
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4.18. Q. How do I change the shell environment for programs called using
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os.popen() or os.system()? Changing os.environ doesn't work.
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A. Modifying the environment passed to subshells was left out of the
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interpreter because there seemed to be no well-established portable
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way to do it.
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However if all you want is to pass environment variables to the
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commands run by os.system() or os.popen(), there's a simple solution:
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prefix the command string with a couple of variable assignments and
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export statements. I guess the following would be universal for popen
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(untested):
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import os
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from commands import mkarg # nifty routine to add shell quoting
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def epopen(cmd, mode, env = {}):
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# env is a dictionary of environment variables
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prefix = ''
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for key, value in env.values():
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prefix = prefix + '%s=%s\n' % (key, mkarg(value))
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prefix = prefix + 'export %s\n' % key
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return os.popen(prefix + cmd, mode)
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4.19. Q. What is a class?
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A. A class is the particular object type that is created by executing
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a class statement.
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4.20. Q. What is a method?
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A. A method is a function that you normally call as
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x.name(arguments...) for some object x. The word is used for methods
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of classes and class instances as well as for methods of built-in
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objects. The latter have a completely different implementation and
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only share the way their calls look in Python code.
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4.21. Q. What is self?
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A. Self is merely a conventional name for the first argument of a
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method -- i.e. a function defined inside a class definition. A method
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defined as meth(self, a, b, c) should be called as x.meth(a, b, c) for
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some instance x of the class in which the definition occurs;
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the called method will think it is called as meth(x, a, b, c).
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4.22. Q. What is a unbound method?
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A. An unbound method is a method defined in a class that is not yet
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bound to an instance. You get an unbound method if you ask for a
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class attribute that happens to be a function. You get a bound method
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if you ask for an instance attribute. A bound method knows which
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instance it belongs to and calling it supplies the instance automatically;
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an unbound method only knows which class it wants for its first
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argument (a derived class is also OK). Calling an unbound method
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doesn't "magically" derive the first argument from the context -- you
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have to provide it explicitly.
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4.23. Q. How do I call a method defined in a base class from a derived class
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that overrides it?
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A. If your class definition starts with "class Derived(Base): ..."
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then you can call method meth defined in Base (or one of Base's base
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classes) as Base.meth(self, arguments...). Here, Base.meth is an
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unbound method (see previous question).
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4.24. Q. How do I call a method from a base class without using the name of
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the base class?
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A. DON'T DO THIS. REALLY. I MEAN IT. It appears that you could call
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self.__class__.__bases__[0].meth(self, arguments...) but this fails when
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a doubly-derived method is derived from your class: for its instances,
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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self.__class__.__bases__[0] is your class, not its base class -- so
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(assuming you are doing this from within Derived.meth) you would start
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a recursive call.
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4.25. Q. How can I organize my code to make it easier to change the base
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class?
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A. You could define an alias for the base class, assign the real base
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class to it before your class definition, and use the alias throughout
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your class. Then all you have to change is the value assigned to the
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alias. Incidentally, this trick is also handy if you want to decide
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dynamically (e.g. depending on availability of resources) which base
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class to use. Example:
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BaseAlias = <real base class>
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class Derived(BaseAlias):
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def meth(self):
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BaseAlias.meth(self)
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...
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4.26. Q. How can I find the methods or attributes of an object?
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A. This depends on the object type.
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For an instance x of a user-defined class, instance attributes are
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|
found in the dictionary x.__dict__, and methods and attributes defined
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|
by its class are found in x.__class__.__bases__[i].__dict__ (for i in
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|
range(len(x.__class__.__bases__))). You'll have to walk the tree of
|
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|
base classes to find *all* class methods and attributes.
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|
Many, but not all built-in types define a list of their method names
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|
in x.__methods__, and if they have data attributes, their names may be
|
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|
|
found in x.__members__. However this is only a convention.
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|
For more information, read the source of the standard (but
|
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|
|
undocumented) module newdir.
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|
4.27. Q. I can't seem to use os.read() on a pipe created with os.popen().
|
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|
A. os.read() is a low-level function which takes a file descriptor (a
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|
|
small integer). os.popen() creates a high-level file object -- the
|
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|
|
same type used for sys.std{in,out,err} and returned by the builtin
|
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|
|
open() function. Thus, to read n bytes from a pipe p created with
|
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|
|
os.popen(), you need to use p.read(n).
|
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1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
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4.28. Q. How can I create a stand-alone binary from a Python script?
|
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|
|
The demo script "Demo/scripts/freeze.py" does what you want. (It's
|
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|
|
actually not a demo but a support tool -- there is some extra code in
|
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|
|
the interpreter to accommodate it.) It requires that you have the
|
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|
|
Python build tree handy, complete with all the lib*.a files.
|
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|
|
This works by scanning your source recursively for import statements
|
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|
|
(both forms) and looking for the modules on the standard Python path
|
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|
|
as well as in the source directory (for built-in modules). It then
|
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|
|
"compiles" the modules written in Python to C code (array initializers
|
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|
|
that can be turned into code objects using the marshal module) and
|
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|
|
creates a custom-made config file that only contains those built-in
|
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|
|
modules which are actually used in the program. It then compiles the
|
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|
|
generated C code and links it with the rest of the Python interpreter
|
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|
|
to form a self-contained binary which acts exactly like your script.
|
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|
|
Unfortunately, the current version is very platform-specific, because
|
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|
|
each platform has its own compilation flags and libraries to link
|
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|
|
with. You will probably have to edit the freeze.py file to point it
|
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|
|
to the right directories and tell it about the compilation and link
|
|
|
|
flags for your platform. A new version will be released with Python
|
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|
|
1.1 -- if you want a peek write to my colleague <Jack.Jansen@cwi.nl>.
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|
4.29. Q. Is there a special lib for writing CGI scripts in Python?
|
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|
|
A. There's documentation and code for a cgi.py module by Michael McLay
|
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|
|
<mclay@eeel.nist.gov> available from:
|
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|
|
|
|
http://www.eeel.nist.gov/python/
|
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|
(For the curious: CGI or Common Gateway Interface is the protocol
|
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|
|
between HTTP servers (WWW servers) and programs/scripts they run to
|
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|
|
perform queries and other tasks that require returning a dynamically
|
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|
|
generated document.)
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|
4.30. Q. What other WWW tools are there for Python?
|
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|
|
A. The standard library has a module urllib, which can retrieve most
|
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|
|
commonly used URL types (file, ftp, http, gopher).
|
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|
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|
|
The Demo2/www directory (Demo2 has to be retrieved separately from the
|
|
|
|
Python ftp sites) contains some (really old) code to parse HTML and to
|
|
|
|
display it.
|
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|
|
|
|
|
|
Steve Miale <smiale@cs.indiana.edu> has written a modular WWW browser
|
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|
|
called Dancer. An alpha version can be FTP'ed from
|
|
|
|
ftp.cs.indiana.edu:/pub/smiale/dancer.tar.gz. (There are a few
|
|
|
|
articles about Dancer in the (hyper)mail archive.)
|
|
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|
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|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
5. Extending Python
|
|
|
|
===================
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|
5.1. Q. Can I create my own functions in C?
|
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|
|
A. Yes, you can create built-in modules containing functions,
|
1994-02-02 14:12:45 +00:00
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|
|
variables, exceptions and even new types in C. This is explained in
|
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|
|
the document "Extending and Embedding the Python Interpreter" (the
|
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|
|
LaTeX file Doc/ext.tex). Also read the chapter on dynamic loading.
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
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|
|
5.2. Q. Can I create my own functions in C++?
|
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|
|
A. Yes, using the C-compatibility features found in C++. Basically
|
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|
|
you place extern "C" { ... } around the Python include files and put
|
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|
|
extern "C" before each function that is going to be called by the
|
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|
|
Python interpreter. Global or static C++ objects with constructors
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|
are probably not a good idea.
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|
1994-06-13 15:13:56 +00:00
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|
5.3. Q. How can I execute arbitrary Python statements from C?
|
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|
|
A. The highest-level function to do this is run_command() which takes
|
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|
|
a single string argument which is executed in the context of module
|
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|
|
__main__ and returns 0 for success and -1 when an exception occurred
|
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|
|
(including SyntaxError). If you want more control, use run_string();
|
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|
|
see the source for run_command() in Python/pythonrun.c.
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|
5.4. Q. How can I evaluate an arbitrary Python expression from C?
|
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|
A. Call the function run_string() from the previous question with the
|
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|
|
start symbol eval_input; it then parses an expression, evaluates it
|
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|
|
and returns its value. See exec_eval() in Python/bltinmodule.c.
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|
5.5. Q. How do I extract C values from a Python object?
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|
|
A. That depends on the object's type. If it's a tuple,
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|
|
gettuplesize(o) returns its length and gettupleitem(o, i) returns its
|
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|
|
i'th item; similar for lists with getlistsize(o) and getlistitem(o,
|
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|
|
i). For strings, getstringsize(o) returns its length and
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|
|
getstringvalue(o) a pointer to its value (note that Python strings may
|
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|
|
contain null bytes so strlen() is not safe). To test which type an
|
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|
|
object is, first make sure it isn't NULL, and then use
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|
|
is_stringobject(o), is_tupleobject(o), is_listobject(o) etc.
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|
5.6. Q. How do I use mkvalue() to create a tuple of arbitrary length?
|
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|
A. You can't. Use t = newtupleobject(n) instead, and fill it with
|
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|
|
objects using settupleitem(t, i, o) -- note that this "eats" a
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|
|
reference count of o. Similar for lists with newlistobject(n) and
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
setlistitem(l, i, o). Note that you *must* set all the tuple items to
|
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|
|
some value before you pass the tuple to Python code --
|
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|
|
newtupleobject(n) initializes them to NULL, which isn't a valid Python
|
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|
|
value.
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|
5.7. Q. What happened to mktuple(), featuring in an example in the
|
|
|
|
Extensions manual?
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|
|
A. It's a typo, I meant newtupleobject() (see previous question).
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|
5.8. Q. How do I call an object's method from C?
|
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|
|
A. Here's a function (untested) that might become part of the next
|
|
|
|
release in some form. It uses <stdarg.h> to allow passing the
|
|
|
|
argument list on to vmkvalue():
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|
|
object *call_method(object *inst, char *methodname, char *format, ...)
|
|
|
|
{
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|
|
object *method;
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|
|
object *args;
|
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|
|
object *result;
|
|
|
|
va_list va;
|
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|
|
method = getattr(inst, methodname);
|
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|
|
if (method == NULL) return NULL;
|
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|
|
va_start(va, format);
|
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|
|
args = vmkvalue(format, va);
|
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|
|
va_end(va);
|
|
|
|
if (args == NULL) {
|
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|
|
DECREF(method);
|
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|
|
return NULL;
|
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|
|
}
|
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|
|
result = call_object(method, args);
|
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|
|
DECREF(method);
|
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|
|
DECREF(args);
|
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|
|
return result;
|
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|
|
}
|
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|
|
This works for any instance that has methods -- whether built-in or
|
|
|
|
user-defined. You are responsible for eventually DECREF'ing the
|
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|
|
return value.
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|
|
To call, e.g., a file object's "seek" method with arguments 10, 0
|
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|
|
(assuming the file object pointer is "f"):
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|
|
res = call_method(f, "seek", "(OO)", 10, 0);
|
|
|
|
if (res == NULL) {
|
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|
|
... an exception occurred ...
|
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|
|
}
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|
else {
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DECREF(res);
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}
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Note that since call_object() *always* wants a tuple for the argument
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list, to call a function without arguments, pass "()" for the format,
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and to call a function with one argument, surround the argument in
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parentheses, e.g. "(i)".
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5.9. Q. How do I catch the output from print_error()?
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A. (Due to Mark Hammond):
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* in Python code, define an object that supports the "write()" method.
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FWIW, there seems to be a small problem that requires the 'softspace'
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attribute to be defined too (I can't remember exact details of the
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problem).
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* redirect sys.stdout and sys.stderr to this object.
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* call print_error, or just allow the standard traceback mechanism to
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work.
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Then, the output will go wherever your write() method sends it.
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5.10. Q. How do I access a module written in Python from C?
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A. You can get a pointer to the module object as follows:
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module = import_module("<modulename>");
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If the module hasn't been imported yet (i.e. it is not yet present in
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sys.modules), this initializes the module; otherwise it simply returns
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the value of sys.modules["<modulename>"]. Note that it doesn't enter
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the module into any namespace -- it only ensures it has been
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initialized and is stored in sys.modules.
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You can then access the module's attributes (i.e. any name defined in
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the module) as follows:
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attr = getattr(module, "<attrname>");
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Calling setattr(), to assign to variables in the module, also works.
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6. Python's design
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==================
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6.1. Q. Why isn't there a generic copying operation for objects in
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Python?
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A. Hmm. Maybe there should be one, but it's difficult to assign a
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useful meaning to copying of open files, sockets and windows, or
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recursive data structures. As long as you design all your classes
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yourself you are of course free to define a standard base class that
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defines an overridable copying operation for all the objects you care
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about. (One practical point: it would have to be a built-in function,
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not a standard method name, since not all built-in object types have
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methods; e.g. strings, integers and tuples don't.)
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6.2. Q. Why isn't there a generic way to implement persistent objects
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in Python? (Persistent == automatically saved to and restored from
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disk.)
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A. Hmm, hmm. Basically for the same reasons as why there is no
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generic copying operation.
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However, since there is a real desire to have persistent operations,
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I'm thinking of extending the marshal module to support object sharing
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(and hence recursive objects) and to extend the list of supported
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types considerably. For user-defined classes, hooks with __*__ names
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will allow the class to modify the way their instances are dumped and
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loaded. Built-in types (including those defined by new extensions)
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may also define dump/load hooks. There are several problems still to
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solve, e.g. how do you reliably find the class of which an object is
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an instance at load time -- assuming the class itself is loaded from
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some module, and not part of the dumped data. It is also necessary to
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separate the functionality of converting a set of objects into a byte
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stream from which they can be reloaded, from the ability to save these
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byte streams as files and being able to reference an object by a
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persistent global name.
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6.3. Q. Why isn't there a switch or case statement in Python?
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A. You can do this easily enough with a sequence of
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if... elif... elif... else. There have been some proposals for switch
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statement syntax, but there is no consensus (yet) on whether and how
|
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to do range tests.
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1994-05-31 09:18:50 +00:00
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6.4. Q. Why does Python use indentation for grouping of statements?
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A. Basically I believe that using indentation for grouping is
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extremely elegant and contributes a lot to the clarity of the average
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Python program. Most people learn to love this feature after a while.
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Some arguments for it:
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- Since there are no begin/end brackets there cannot be a disagreement
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between grouping perceived by the parser and the human reader. I
|
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remember long ago seeing a C fragment like this:
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if (x <= y)
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x++;
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y--;
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z++;
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and staring a long time at it wondering why y was being decremented
|
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even for x > y... (And I wasn't a C newbie then either.)
|
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- Since there are no begin/end brackets there can be no conflicting
|
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|
coding styles. In C there are loads of different ways to place the
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braces (including the choice whether to place braces around single
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statements in certain cases, for consistency). If you're used to
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reading (and writing) code that uses one style, you will feel at least
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|
slightly uneasy when reading (or being required to write) another
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style.
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- Many coding styles place begin/end brackets on a line by themself.
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|
This makes programs considerably longer and wastes valuable screen
|
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|
space, making it harder to get a good overview over a program.
|
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|
Ideally, a function should fit on one basic tty screen (say, 20
|
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|
lines). 20 lines of Python are worth a LOT more than 20 lines of C.
|
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|
This is not solely due to the lack of begin/end brackets (the lack of
|
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|
|
declarations also helps, and the powerful operations of course), but
|
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|
it certainly helps!
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|
1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
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6.5. Q. Why are Python strings immutable?
|
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|
A. There are two advantages. One is performance: knowing that a
|
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|
string is immutable makes it easy to lay it out at construction time
|
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|
-- fixed and unchanging storage requirements. (This is also one of
|
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|
|
|
the reasons for the distinction between tuples and lists.) The
|
1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
|
|
|
other is that strings in Python are considered as "elemental" as
|
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|
|
numbers. No amount of activity will change the value 8 to anything
|
|
|
|
else, and in Python, no amount of activity will change the string
|
|
|
|
"eight" to anything else. (Adapted from Jim Roskind)
|
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|
6.6. Q. Why don't strings have methods like index() or sort(), like
|
|
|
|
lists?
|
|
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|
|
A. Good question. Strings currently don't have methods at all
|
|
|
|
(likewise tuples and numbers). Long ago, it seemed unnecessary to
|
|
|
|
implement any of these functions in C, so a standard library module
|
|
|
|
"string" written in Python was created that performs string related
|
|
|
|
operations. Since then, the cry for performance has moved most of
|
|
|
|
them into the built-in module strop (this is imported by module
|
1994-08-17 12:19:53 +00:00
|
|
|
string, which is still the preferred interface, without loss of
|
1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
|
|
|
performance except during initialization). Some of these functions
|
|
|
|
(e.g. index()) could easily be implemented as string methods instead,
|
|
|
|
but others (e.g. sort()) can't, since their interface prescribes that
|
|
|
|
they modify the object, while strings are immutable (see the previous
|
|
|
|
question).
|
|
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|
|
6.7. Q. Why does Python use methods for some functionality
|
|
|
|
(e.g. list.index()) but functions for other (e.g. len(list))?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. Functions are used for those operations that are generic for a
|
|
|
|
group of types and which should work even for objects that don't have
|
|
|
|
methods at all (e.g. numbers, strings, tuples). Also, implementing
|
|
|
|
len(), max(), min() as a built-in function is actually less code than
|
|
|
|
implementing them as methods for each type. One can quibble about
|
|
|
|
individual cases but it's really too late to change such things
|
|
|
|
fundamentally now.
|
|
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|
|
6.8. Q. Why can't I derive a class from built-in types (e.g. lists or
|
|
|
|
files)?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. This is caused by the relatively late addition of (user-defined)
|
|
|
|
classes to the language -- the implementation framework doesn't easily
|
|
|
|
allow it. See the answer to question 4.2 for a work-around. This
|
|
|
|
*may* be fixed in the (distant) future.
|
|
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|
|
6.9. Q. Why must 'self' be declared and used explicitly in method
|
|
|
|
definitions and calls?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. By asking this question you reveal your C++ background. :-)
|
|
|
|
When I added classes, this was (again) the simplest way of
|
|
|
|
implementing methods without too many changes to the interpreter. I
|
|
|
|
borrowed the idea from Modula-3. It turns out to be very useful, for
|
|
|
|
a variety of reasons.
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
First, it makes it more obvious that you are using a method or
|
|
|
|
instance attribute instead of a local variable. Reading "self.x" or
|
|
|
|
"self.meth()" makes it absolutely clear that an instance variable or
|
|
|
|
method is used even if you don't know the class definition by heart.
|
|
|
|
In C++, you can sort of tell by the lack of a local variable
|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
|
|
|
declaration (assuming globals are rare or easily recognizable) -- but
|
1994-07-25 14:19:33 +00:00
|
|
|
in Python, there are no local variable declarations, so you'd have to
|
|
|
|
look up the class definition to be sure.
|
|
|
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|
|
Second, it means that no special syntax is necessary if you want to
|
|
|
|
explicitly reference or call the method from a particular class. In
|
|
|
|
C++, if you want to use a method from base class that is overridden in
|
|
|
|
a derived class, you have to use the :: operator -- in Python you can
|
|
|
|
write baseclass.methodname(self, <argument list>). This is
|
|
|
|
particularly useful for __init__() methods, and in general in cases
|
|
|
|
where a derived class method wants to extend the base class method of
|
|
|
|
the same name and thus has to call the base class method somehow.
|
|
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|
|
Lastly, for instance variables, it solves a syntactic problem with
|
|
|
|
assignment: since local variables in Python are (by definition!) those
|
|
|
|
variables to which a value assigned in a function body (and that
|
|
|
|
aren't explicitly declared global), there has to be some way to tell
|
|
|
|
the interpreter that an assignment was meant to assign to an instance
|
|
|
|
variable instead of to a local variable, and it should preferably be
|
|
|
|
syntactic (for efficiency reasons). C++ does this through
|
|
|
|
declarations, but Python doesn't have declarations and it would be a
|
|
|
|
pity having to introduce them just for this purpose. Using the
|
|
|
|
explicit "self.var" solves this nicely. Similarly, for using instance
|
|
|
|
variables, having to write "self.var" means that references to
|
|
|
|
unqualified names inside a method don't have to search the instance's
|
|
|
|
directories.
|
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|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
6.10. Q. Can't you emulate threads in the interpreter instead of
|
|
|
|
relying on an OS-specific thread implementation?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. Unfortunately, the interpreter pushes at least one C stack frame
|
|
|
|
for each Python stack frame. Also, extensions can call back into
|
|
|
|
Python at almost random moments. Therefore a complete threads
|
|
|
|
implementation requires thread support for C.
|
|
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|
|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
|
|
|
6.11. Q. Why can't lambda forms contain statements?
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
A. Python lambda forms cannot contain statements because Python's
|
|
|
|
syntactic framework can't handle statements nested inside functions.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
However, in Python, this is not a serious problem. Unlike lambda
|
|
|
|
forms in other languages, where they add functionality, Python lambdas
|
|
|
|
are only a shorthand notation if you're too lazy to define a function.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Functions are already first class objects in Python, and can be
|
|
|
|
declared in a local scope. Therefore the only advantage of using a
|
|
|
|
lambda form instead of a locally-defined function is that you'll have
|
|
|
|
to invent a name for the function -- but that's just a local variable
|
|
|
|
to which the function object (which is exactly the same type of object
|
|
|
|
that a lambda form yields) is assigned!
|
|
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|
6.12. Q. Why is there no more efficient way of iterating over a dictionary
|
|
|
|
than first constructing the list of keys()?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. Have you tried it? I bet it's fast enough for your purposes! In
|
|
|
|
most cases such a list takes only a few percent of the space occupied
|
|
|
|
by the dictionary -- it needs only 4 bytes (the size of a pointer) per
|
|
|
|
key -- a dictionary costs 8 bytes per key plus between 30 and 70
|
|
|
|
percent hash table overhead, plus the space for the keys and values --
|
|
|
|
by necessity all keys are unique objects and a string object (the most
|
|
|
|
common key type) costs at least 18 bytes plus the length of the
|
|
|
|
string. Add to that the values contained in the dictionary, and you
|
|
|
|
see that 4 bytes more per item really isn't that much more memory...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A call to dict.keys() makes one fast scan over the dictionary
|
|
|
|
(internally, the iteration function does exist) copying the pointers
|
|
|
|
to the key objects into a pre-allocated list object of the right size.
|
|
|
|
The iteration time isn't lost (since you'll have to iterate anyway --
|
|
|
|
unless in the majority of cases your loop terminates very prematurely
|
|
|
|
(which I doubt since you're getting the keys in random order).
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I don't expose the dictionary iteration operation to Python
|
|
|
|
programmers because the dictionary shouldn't be modified during the
|
|
|
|
entire iteration -- if it is, there's a very small chance that the
|
|
|
|
dictionary is reorganized because the hash table becomes too full, and
|
|
|
|
then the iteration may miss some items and see others twice. Exactly
|
|
|
|
because this only occurs rarely, it would lead to hidden bugs in
|
|
|
|
programs: it's easy never to have it happen during test runs if you
|
|
|
|
only insert or delete a few items per iteration -- but your users will
|
|
|
|
surely hit upon it sooner or later.
|
|
|
|
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
7. Using Python on non-UNIX platforms
|
|
|
|
=====================================
|
|
|
|
|
1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
|
|
|
7.1. Q. Is there a Mac version of Python?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. Yes. It is on most ftp sites carrying Python as python.sea.hqx --
|
|
|
|
this is a self-extracting archive containing the application binary as
|
|
|
|
well as the Lib modules.
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
7.2. Q. Is there a DOS version of Python?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
A. Yes. More than one, actually: 16python.exe runs in standard DOS
|
|
|
|
mode on 186 CPUs or higher; 32python.exe uses a DOS extender and only
|
|
|
|
runs on a 386 or higher CPUs. Although 16python.exe does not pass the
|
|
|
|
test set because test_grammar is too big for the parser, it actually
|
|
|
|
has about 270 kbyte of allocatable heap space, which is sufficient for
|
|
|
|
fairly large programs. 32python.exe is distributed as a tar file
|
|
|
|
containing the required DOS extended and 387 emulator. Both are on
|
|
|
|
most ftp sites carrying Python.
|
|
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|
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
The file dosbuild.tar.gz on the standard ftp sites
|
|
|
|
(e.g. ftp.cwi.nl:/pub/python/) contains rudimentary Makefiles and
|
|
|
|
instructions.
|
|
|
|
|
1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
|
|
|
7.3. Q. Is there a Windows version of Python?
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
|
1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
|
|
|
A. Yes. Use qwpython.exe. The only problem with it: ^C
|
|
|
|
unconditionally kills the entire program -- it does not raise
|
|
|
|
KeyboardInterrupt. You can also run 16python.exe or 32python.exe in a
|
|
|
|
"DOS box", but qwpython.exe appears to be slightly faster.
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
There aren't any Makefiles at this moment. Sorry.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Using Win32s (a free NT compatibility package by Microsoft) you can
|
|
|
|
also use the NT version by Mark Hammond -- the Win32s package is also
|
|
|
|
in that directory (you'll need several MB of disk space to install
|
|
|
|
it). See the next question.
|
|
|
|
|
1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
|
|
|
7.4. Q. Is there a Windows NT version of Python?
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
|
1994-02-15 15:52:27 +00:00
|
|
|
A. Yes. Use ntpython.exe. This is for Intel CPUs. If you want a
|
|
|
|
Windows user interface, use qwpython.exe.
|
1994-01-26 10:20:16 +00:00
|
|
|
|
1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
|
|
|
Mark Hammond <MHammond@cmutual.com.au> is building a better NT port.
|
|
|
|
This supports using DLLs for dynamic loading of Python modules, and
|
|
|
|
includes an interface to the Microsoft Foundation Classes and a Python
|
|
|
|
programming environment using it that's written mostly in Python. A
|
|
|
|
prerelease (source and binaries) can be ftp'ed from
|
|
|
|
ftp.cwi.nl:/pub/python/nt/ -- most mirrors will also have this. A
|
|
|
|
thread module is also planned but currently low on Mark's list of
|
|
|
|
priorities.
|
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|
1994-10-06 16:03:45 +00:00
|
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To build Python for the Windows NT on the DEC Alpha AXP, retrieve a
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zipfile with Makefiles for NT from the following URL:
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"ftp://ftp.ksc.nasa.gov/pub.win3.private.proto/python-make.zip". This
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was contributed by Sam Rushing <rushing@squirl.oau.org>.
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Note that currently there is no unified compilation environment for
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all NT platforms -- hopefully Microsoft will fix this with the release
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of Visual C++ 2.0.
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7.5. Q. Is there an OS/2 version of Python?
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A. Yes. You can ftp it (from ftp.cwi.nl in pub/python, or from the
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mirror sites) as pyth_os2.zip. This contains both an executable and
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Makefiles for those fortunate enough to have a C compiler.
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7.6. Q. Is there a VMS version of Python?
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A. I think not (yet). This question has been asked on the list
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several times and I've never seen an answer. Maybe someone with a VMS
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C compiler could attempt a port? Probably coming up with proper
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Makefiles, config.h and config.c should be sufficient. If you succeed
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(or even if you get stuck halfway), please let me know! (Info as of
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23 September 1994.)
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7.7. Q. What about IBM mainframes, or other esoteric non-UNIX
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platforms?
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A. Basically, the same story as for VMS... (Info as of 23 September
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1994.)
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For ports of Windows NT to non-Intel platforms, the normal NT port
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should work except you may have to use a different Makefile.
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(Unconfirmed suggestions from the Python list.)
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7.8. Q. Where are the source or Makefiles for the non-UNIX versions?
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A. The standard sources can (almost) be used. See the previous
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questions for availability of Makefiles/projects or patches. If you
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find things in the standard sources that don't work on your particular
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platform, please let me know and I'll integrate a solution into the
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next release of the standard sources. If you submit a fix, please use
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some kind of #ifdef so as to keep the source working for other
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platforms. In particular, if the patch works around the availability
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of a particular function of header file, you should mimic the
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HAVE_... style used by the configure script -- you can then submit a
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config.h file for a particular platform so there are no absolutely
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platform-specific #ifdefs in the rest of the sources.
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7.9. Q. What is the status and support for the non-UNIX versions?
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A. I don't have access to most of these platforms, so in general I am
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dependent on material submitted by volunteers(*). However I strive to
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integrate all changes needed to get it to compile on a particular
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platform back into the standard sources, so porting of the next
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version to the various non-UNIX platforms should be easy.
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(*) For the Macintosh, that volunteer is me.
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7.10. Q. I have the PC version but it appears to be only a binary.
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Where's the library?
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A. You still need to copy the files from the distribution directory
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"python/Lib" to your system. If you don't have the full distribution,
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you can get the file pythonlib<version>.tar.gz from most ftp sites
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carrying Python; this is a subset of the distribution containing just
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those file.
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1994-04-11 11:06:22 +00:00
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Once you have installed the library, you need to point sys.path to it.
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Assuming the library is in C:\misc\python\lib, the following commands
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will point your Python interpreter to it (note the doubled backslashes
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-- you can also use single forward slashes instead):
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>>> import sys
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>>> sys.path.insert(0, 'C:\\misc\\python\\lib')
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>>>
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For a more permanent effect, set the environment variable PYTHONPATH,
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as follows (talking to a DOS prompt):
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C> SET PYTHONPATH=C:\misc\python\lib
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7.11. Q. Where's the documentation for the Mac or PC version?
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A. There isn't any. The documentation for the Unix version also
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applies to the Mac and PC versions. Where applicable, differences
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are indicated in the text.
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7.12. Q. The Mac (PC) version doesn't seem to have any facilities for
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creating or editing programs apart from entering it interactively, and
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there seems to be no way to save code that was entered interactively.
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How do I create a Python program on the Mac (PC)?
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1994-09-23 14:20:38 +00:00
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A. Use an external editor. On the Mac, BBEdit seems to be a popular
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no-frills text editor. I work like this: start the interpreter; edit
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a module file using BBedit; import and test it in the interpreter;
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edit again in BBedit; then use the built-in function reload() to
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re-read the imported module; etc.
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Regarding the same question for the PC, Kurt Wm. Hemr writes: "While
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anyone with a pulse could certainly figure out how to do the same on
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MS-Windows, I would recommend the NotGNU Emacs clone for MS-Windows.
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Not only can you easily resave and "reload()" from Python after making
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changes, but since WinNot auto-copies to the clipboard any text you
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select, you can simply select the entire procedure (function) which
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you changed in WinNot, switch to QWPython, and shift-ins to reenter
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the changed program unit."
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